Month: June 2025

How The Left Lost The Working Class

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Mike talks with Joan C. Williams, Distinguished Professor of Law and Hastings Foundation Chair (emerita) at University of California College of Law San Francisco. She’s the author of the recently released book, Outclassed: How the Left Lost the Working Class and How to Win Them Back, which they discuss in this episode.

Topics Mike & Joan cover include:
– class blindness on the left
– the ‘missing middle’
– why moving to the center isn’t the answer
– why red states with ‘family values’ have so much family dysfunction
– toxic masculinity and deploying alternative masculinities
– the left’s problem with patriotism

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Israel and Iran, Minnesota Murders

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This week, Mike and Justin are joined by Joey Ashbrook, a new conservative voice on The Politics Guys. They open with a discussion of the escalating hostilities between Israel and Iran. Justin argues that Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal “set the ball in motion” for today’s crisis. Joey contends that Iran’s uranium enrichment past peaceful-use levels justifies Trump’s hardline stance. Mike suggests Netanyahu may have maneuvered the U.S. into deeper involvement by initiating strikes that only American assets can complete.

The conversation then turns to the politically motivated murders in Minnesota. Justin calls Trump’s refusal to contact Governor Walz “classless” and emblematic of his failure to provide unifying symbolic leadership. Mike warns that rising political violence is fueled by social disconnection and online radicalization. Joey concedes that some GOP reactions were misjudged but argues that rejecting “fake unity” is a core—and clarifying—feature of Trump’s political ethos.

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LA Protests, Army Parade, No Kings, Vaccine Panel Mass Firing

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Mike and Trey are joined by a new co-host, Tim King, a Professor of Economics at the University of Austin. The guys start off with a discussion of the civil unrest in Los Angeles. Tim argues that Democrats are hurting themselves politically by appearing to side with violent protesters. Trey points out that the administration’s legal justification for deploying troops is on shaky ground. Mike highlights that while the president receives broad deference on these matters, the failure to follow proper legal procedures is a real problem.

From there, they move to the parade in honor of the Army’s 250th birthday and the ‘No Kings’ counterprogramming scheduled for the same day in multiple locations across the country. Tim sees the parade as a positive show of support for the military, but doubts protests will change anything. Trey views these events as more about organizing and building activist networks than immediate impact. Mike warns that counterprotests like these risk alienating voters and undermining the cause they hope to advance.

They close by considering HHS Secretary RFK Jr firing all 17 members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices and quickly naming eight replacements, just weeks before the committee’s next meeting. Tim downplays the impact, suggesting public trust in government health advice was already damaged during COVID. Trey stresses that the advisory board’s decisions have real consequences for vaccine access. Mike finds RFK’s claims of conflicts of interest unconvincing, seeing little justification for such a sweeping shake-up.

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Travel Ban 2025 Edition, Social Media Slap Fights, One Big Beautiful Bill, Ukraine’s Drone Attack

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Trey and Justin join forces for the first time in this week’s episode! The pair begin with a discussion of Trump’s new travel ban and its relationship to the attack in Boulder. Then they discuss both the social media battle between Elon Musk and President Donald Trump and whether this is the last gasp for economic conservatives in the Republican Party. They close the show discussing the impact of Ukraine’s drone strikes and how it borders, as close as one can, to the workings of a James Bond-like movie.

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Lura Forcum on the Power of Independents

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Mike talks with Lura Forcum, president of the Independent Center, an organization that represents people who are fed up with partisan politics and feel politically homeless.

Topics Mike & Lura discuss include:

  • how Lura went from a marketing professor to running the Independent Center
  • true independents vs learners
  • if there are enough independents to make a real difference
  • whether partisan politics is such a bad thing
  • the two-party stranglehold on political power
  • how the Independent Center hopes to change things

Check out Lura’s podcast, We Made This Political

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