Biden Bows Out, The Harris Agenda, Secret Service Director Resigns

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Mike, Ken, and Trey open with a discussion of President Biden’s decision to leave the race and the potential running mates and policies for presumptive nominee Kamala Harris. Ken argues that Biden would have done just fine against Trump and that Harris will also win in November, whereas Trey and Mike are far less bullish on her chances. They all agree that a potential Harris administration would be somewhat to the left of what we’ve seen from Joe Biden.

They close the episode by looking at the Secret Service failures and congressional testimony that led to the resignation of director Kimberly Cheatle. Mike and Trey think Cheatle should have resigned sooner, with Mike arguing that President Biden should have called for her resignation shortly after the magnitude of the failure became evident.

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Taking on Trumpism with High-Dominance Politics

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Mike talks with Berkeley political scientist Steven Fish, author of the recently released book, Comeback: Routing Trumpism, Reclaiming the Nation, and Restoring Democracy’s Edge.

Topics Mike & Steve Discuss Include:
– if Democrats are spoiled whiners
– low-dominance liberals vs high-dominance Trump
– why ignoring polls is a good thing (at times)
– pathologically risk-averse liberals
– high-dominance politics in a global perspective
– how Kamala Harris can project strength against Trump
– why Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear might be a good VP choice
– structural problems facing high-dominance Democrats
– Mike’s misgivings about high-dominance messaging

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Trump Assassination Attempt, VP Vance, GOP Convention

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Mike and Jay open with a discussion of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. While there’s a lot we still don’t know, it’s clear that the Secret Service failed to do its job. Mike and Jay agree that Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle shouldn’t still have her job, though Mike contends that those on the right blaming what happened on “DEI hires” are engaged in rampant speculation to promote their ideological agenda.

Next is a look at Ohio US Senator JD Vance, who Trump picked as his running mate. Jay still doesn’t think Vance was a great choice, though he attempts to work out what Vance might bring to the ticket. Mike argues that VPs bring almost nothing to the ticket and that the simplest way to understand Trump’s selection of Vance is that Trump just went with his gut. Mike also argues that the selection of Vance points to a MAGAfied GOP even after Trump leaves the scene.

In considering the Republican Convention at which Trump and Vance were formally nominated, Mike found that the GOP seems to be looking to the past and not at all like the optimistic, future-oriented party of Ronald Reagan. Jay points out that the Republicans did a great job of bringing in “real Americans” to drive home the point that the Republican Party is fighting for Americans who are looked down on by elites.

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Crossing The Line: US Immigration Policy

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Mike talks with educator, researcher, and writer Sarah Towle about her latest book, Crossing the Line: Finding America in the Borderlands.

Topics Mike and Sarah Discuss Include:
– the historical roots of our current immigration issues
– the connection between trade policy and immigration
– why prevention through deterrence hasn’t worked
– if “remain in Mexico” is a viable approach to asylum seekers
– immigrants, crime, and American jobs
– helping border communities cope with the flow of migrants
– what a more efficient, effective, and humane border policy might look like

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Booting Biden, Trump’s VP, AOC’s Impeachment Resolution

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Jay is joined by Justin Holmes from the University of Northern Iowa (whose opinions, as always are his own and not reflective of his employer, the people of the great state of Iowa, or its 20 Million head of hogs).

The show kicks off with a discussion of the ongoing calls for President Biden to end his campaign. They start with a divide over how bad of shape Biden is in cognitively and mainstream press coverage (Jay thinks it’s about time the mainstream press picks up on Biden’s problems, Justin thinks the coverage is overblown). They then discuss the process for removing Biden from the ticket (there’s not a clean one), who the contenders are, and what their odds are.

Next, they turn their attention to Trump’s potential Vice Presidential Choices, and what each brings to the ticket.

They conclude with a discussion of AOC’s impeachment resolution against Justices Thomas and Alito for accepting gifts. Jay discusses whether they did anything illegal, and Justin and Jay disagree about how much meddling Congress should have in regulating the Supreme Court, but they both agree that accepting valuable gifts is a bad look, and that Harlan Crow should take them to Bali.

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Biden Defiant, Presidential Immunity, Overturning 1/6 Convictions

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Mike and May open with a discussion of the fallout from President Biden’s debate performance, including his defiant (and some would say delusional) determination to stay in the race and beat Donald Trump. May thinks the Democrats should have seen this coming and doesn’t expect them to force Biden out, while Mike holds out hope that the mounting pressure from party leaders and donors will end up with Biden stepping aside.

Following that they turn to the Supreme Court’s ruling on presidential immunity. May believes that the majority got it right, and while Mike doesn’t disagree, he feels that they went too far.

They close by considering the Court’s ruling that one of the charges a number of January 6th defendants were convicted on was improperly applied to them. Both Mike and May agree with the ruling, and note the somewhat unusual alignment of the justices, with one of the Court’s conservatives joining the liberals in dissent, and one of the liberals siding with the conservative majority.

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Biden’s Disastrous Debate and a Bunch of Big Supreme Court Decisions

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Mike and Jay open with a discussion of President Biden’s disastrous performance in the first presidential debate. Mike was actually hoping for a worse outcome that would all but force Biden from the race, which he doesn’t think will happen, despite multiple calls for Biden to step aside. Jay wonders how Biden’s closest confidants and top advisors allowed things to get to this point. Mike suggests that Biden may still be able to handle the non-public-facing parts of the job, which Jay doubts, particularly in the event of a national security emergency.

After that, they turn to the Supreme Court ending Chevron deference, in a ruling that will have major implications for government agencies, Congress, and the courts. Mike has long been a supporter of Chevron but thinks that the Court made the right call here, which both surprises and pleases Jay, who’s never been a fan of Chevron.

Following that they discuss two other major decisions of the Court – one that allows women in Idaho to obtain abortions to preserve their lives and health and another in which the Court decided that plaintiffs arguing the government censored their social media posts don’t have standing to sue.

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Presidential Leadership From Washington to Biden

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Mike talks with attorney, author, and historian Talmage Boston. His books include Cross-Examining History, Raising the Bar: The Crucial Role of Lawyers in History, and most recently, How The Best Did It: Leadership Lessons From Our Top Presidents, which is the focus of their discussion.

Topics Mike and Talmage cover include:
– the “Great 8” Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, TR, FDR, Ike, JFK, & Reagan
– key leadership strengths of those 8 presidents
– the main weakness of each of the 8 presidents
– most important presidential leadership skills
– if it’s harder to be a great political leader in today’s world
– strengths and weaknesses of Joe Biden and Donald Trump

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Biden’s Citizenship Pathway, Moore v United States, Gonzalez v Trevino, United States v Rahimi, Bump Stock Ban Blocked

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Trey & Ken open by delving into President Biden’s proposed path to citizenship for undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens, analyzing its potential impacts and political ramifications. Trey argues the timing is a political bone to the left in the wake of his tougher border policies.

Next, they tackle the implications of three major Supreme Court cases. In the first, Moore v. United States, upholding foreign asset taxing, Trey and Ken agree with the majority but Trey disagrees with the policy implications of a wealth tax. In the second, Gonzalez v. Trevino, both Trey and Ken agree that reigning in some protection for police officers is important. Still, Ken argues that all the justices would change their votes if it were applied to former president Trump. In the third, United States v. Rahimi, they discuss the upholding of the Second Amendment’s constitutionality for those under domestic violence orders.

Lastly, they explore the Senate’s recent blockage of the Democratic-led bump stock ban by Senate Republicans. Trey argues Republicans are simply using it as a political tool for the upcoming election and hopes afterward a ban will be possible.

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Republicans and Democrats Agree – Democracy is Under Threat

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Mike talks with Liam deClive-Lowe, co-founder and co-president of American Policy Ventures. APV is a group that works with people and organizations across the ideological spectrum to make it easier for policymakers to effectively solve critical policy problems. They sponsored the Georgetown Battleground Civility Poll that came out not too long ago, which is the focus of their conversation

Topics Mike & Liam Discuss Include:
– the mission of AVP
– the value of Democrat and Republican pollsters working together
– why most Republicans and Democrats believe democracy is threatened
– fighting for values vs working for the best possible solution
– getting to a point of ‘slightly less loathing’
– how close we are to civil war
– why Congress is more bipartisan than you might think
– opportunities for bipartisanship

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