Harris’s CNN Interview, Trump and Abortion, A Modified Trump Indictment

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Trey and May begin by analyzing Harris’s CNN interview. Trey posits we have entered a new post-position political age. Both discuss the evolution of Harris and whether she has stayed true to her values while shifting her policies. The pair delve into the respective promises of both Harris and Trump on using opposing party members in their cabinet and their transition team respectively.

Next the pair dive into Trump’s evolution on abortion and his use of pro-choice phrases in his Truth Social Posts along with his rhetoric about wanting to extend abortion windows and his comment on Florida’s six weeks being too short. This leads to May asserting that the pro-life movement was not ready for a win while Trey contends that the common goal of ending Roe hid the deep disagreements in the pro-life movement.

They close by looking at the Trump indictment which attempts to separate his public and private actions. May believes that his actions were justified and will not meet the scrutiny of the Supreme Court and Trey sees a petulant child who could never accept election results that had not tended Trump’s direction.

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The Culture War and School Vouchers

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Mike talks with Josh Cowen, a professor of education policy at Michigan State University about his recently released book, The Privateers: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers.

Topics Mike & Josh Cover Include:
– how vouchers work
– Milton Friedman’s role as a voucher pioneer
– vouchers as a response to school desegregation
– why modern voucher programs are less accountable
– the ‘woke’ agenda of k-12 education
– vouchers and religious freedom
– Harris v Trump on vouchers

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Democratic Convention, RFK Jr and Trump, Biden Impeachment Report

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Mike and Jay open with a discussion of the recently concluded Democratic National Convention. Mike notes that the tone of the DNC was far more upbeat and optimistic than the RNC, and attributes that in some part to the basic nature of Donald Trump. They also get into a discussion of the Democrats’ celebrity advantage and Jay’s theory as to why that’s the case.

Next up is RFK Jr. suspending his campaign and endorsing Donald Trump. Mike argues that in some ways RFK Jr. and Trump make strange political bedfellows, but that RFK Jr. seemed determined to leverage his small but potentially significant support into an administration position in either a Harris or Trump administration. Jay thinks RFK Jr is a long-time nut and that he’d be a horrible choice for Secretary of Health and Human Services.

They close with a look at the House Oversight Committee’s report on the Biden impeachment inquiry. Jay thinks Biden likely committed serious ethical and possibly legal lapses while vice president, whereas Mike is less certain and argues for the weirdness of even considering impeaching a president for things he allegedly did when he was vice president. That said, Mike feels that it’s good for Congress to look into credible accusations of favor-currying from presidential friends and family. Mike’s hope is that this impeachment-mania will end when Trump and Biden have left the scene. Jay isn’t as hopeful as Mike on that.

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Lost in the Middle: America’s Political Orphans

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Mike talks with Scott Klug, an Emmy award-winning journalist, former member of Congress, and currently co-chair of the Federal Public Affairs Practice at the national law firm of Foley & Lardner. He’s also a podcaster – the founder and host of Lost in the Middle: America’s Political Orphans – and writes the Lost in the Middle Substack.

Topics Mike and Scott Discuss Include:
– Scott’s move from journalism to Congress to lobbyist
– changes in the GOP from Reagan to Trump
– corruption in Congress
– the importance of local investigative journalism
– why neither party seems to focus much on the middle
– institutional factors driving partisanship
– if things are likely to get worse before they get better

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Musk ‘Interviews’ Trump, Musk Lawsuit, Lowering Drug Prices

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Jay, Justin, and Mike open with a discussion of the X conversation between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. They consider the ties between Musk and Trump, Musk’s move from left to right, and whether the event was a violation of campaign finance law as well as illegal worker intimidation.

This moves into a conversation of Elon Musk’s recent lawsuit alleging that an advertiser boycott of X violates antitrust law. Jay points out that it’s a strange claim in that there’s no apparent harm to consumers. Justin doesn’t see the lawsuit as having much likelihood of success, while Mike mentions that it’s an example of even more judicial forum shopping.

They close with the recently announced Medicare drug price reduction agreement. Jay has a problem with the nature of the negotiations but agrees that Americans have been paying more so that pharmaceutical companies can make up for lower prices in most other developed countries.

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How To Raise a Citizen

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Travis talks with political science professor (and mom!), Dr. Lindsey Cormack about her new book, How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It’s Up to You to Do It), in which she encourages parents to learn more about politics, civics, and government, and to take on a more active role in providing that education to their children.

Topics Travis and Lindsey cover include:

  • Key features and functions of American civics that parents need to know and to teach their children
  • How to talk to kids about controversial or hot-topic issues in an age-appropriate way
  • Why schools have failed to provide this instruction to students and what they could do to improve

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Harris Picks Walz, Presidential Race

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Mike and Jay open with a discussion of Kamala Harris’ choice of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate. While neither Mike nor Jay believes Walz will make much of a difference, Mike argues that he’s more of a “regular person” than Trump running mate JD Vance, and that Harris has a reasonable shot at winning without running with a battleground state running mate.

Then they turn to the state of the presidential race. Jay points out what he sees as the hypocrisy of Democrats’ “coronation” of Harris, a position Mike takes issue with. Mike has moved from near despair to cautious optimism now that Harris has replaced Biden on the ticket, while Jay sees it as still Trump’s race to lose, and believes Trump might even win big. They agree that Harris should hold a press conference, but Mike is willing to cut her more slack given all she’s had to do since Biden bowed out.

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New Deal Law and Order and the Modern Liberal State

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Mike talks with historian Anthony Gregory, author of multiple publications on national security, constitutionalism, and legal theory. His latest book is New Deal Law and Order: How The War on Crime Built The Modern Liberal State.

Topics Mike & Anthony Discuss Include:
– the origin of the “war on crime”
– how the war on crime paved the way for the modern liberal state
– FDR’s “creative constitutionalism”
– J. Edgar Hoover and the creation of the modern FBI
– the war on crime and the Civil Rights Movement
– consequences of New Deal law & order

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Trump’s Comments at NABJ Convention, U.S.-Russia Prisoner Exchange, the Killing of Ismail Haniyeh

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Trey, May, and Ken commence the show with an in-depth discussion on former President Donald Trump’s comments at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention (NABJ) in Chicago. The debate becomes contentious as Ken and May dispute Trump’s engagement with racist groups. May contends that Ken’s remarks unfairly characterize conservatives as racist, while Ken clarifies that Trump’s outreach to white supremacists does not implicate all conservatives, only a segment of his coalition.

Next, they analyze the largest U.S.-Russia prisoner exchange since the Cold War, which included Wall Street reporter Evan Gershkovich, and consider its implications amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ken and May diverge on the potential actions of a Trump/Vance administration in response to this exchange. May argues the action needs to come to an end sooner, not later, because the American public is growing tired of supporting it financially.

The show concludes with a discussion on the killing of Ismail Haniyeh in Iran. Trey points out the deep power it means Israel has inside of Iran. Ken believes the negative repercussions outweigh the positive, suggesting it endangers any remaining prisoners. May argues that earlier decisive action against more specific Hamas members, like Haniyeh, by Israel, would have been more impactful on the international stage, rather than delaying nearly a year

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